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	<title>Comments on: Latest Dutchergate news: Richard Dutcher issues Official Declaration 2</title>
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		<title>By: Rich LaRocco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich LaRocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not base my testimony on the false premise that the president of the church is infallible.  Or that past presidents of the church were infallible.  Or that any prophet was infallible.  Thus, it doesn't bother me when an historian points out contradictory statements made by past or current general authorities.  Hey, they're human and, therefore, prone to err.  Richard Dutcher is also human and prone to err.  Mormons should seek truth from whatever source they can get it, as Brigham Young said.  They also should reject the opposite of truth from whatever source it comes.  The LDS church is full of humans who make mistakes, all the way from the rank and file members to Sunday School teachers, bishops, stake presidents and the very top echelons of its leadership.  This doesn't make the doctrine any less true.  But you must base your faith on true doctrine -- thus I concentrate on the basics, not worrying too much about anything beyond the articles of faith.  Another false premise:  That all American Indians are descendants of Laman or Lemuel.  Base your faith on such a falsehood, and your faith will be shaken if DNA tests indicate otherwise.  I've also never visited the "Book of Mormon sites" in Guatemala.  That's because I'm not convinced the Mayans were either Nephites or Lamanites.   Maybe some Mormons would consider me a heretic because I either reject or hesitate to accept some things that most of them believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not base my testimony on the false premise that the president of the church is infallible.  Or that past presidents of the church were infallible.  Or that any prophet was infallible.  Thus, it doesn&#8217;t bother me when an historian points out contradictory statements made by past or current general authorities.  Hey, they&#8217;re human and, therefore, prone to err.  Richard Dutcher is also human and prone to err.  Mormons should seek truth from whatever source they can get it, as Brigham Young said.  They also should reject the opposite of truth from whatever source it comes.  The LDS church is full of humans who make mistakes, all the way from the rank and file members to Sunday School teachers, bishops, stake presidents and the very top echelons of its leadership.  This doesn&#8217;t make the doctrine any less true.  But you must base your faith on true doctrine &#8212; thus I concentrate on the basics, not worrying too much about anything beyond the articles of faith.  Another false premise:  That all American Indians are descendants of Laman or Lemuel.  Base your faith on such a falsehood, and your faith will be shaken if DNA tests indicate otherwise.  I&#8217;ve also never visited the &#8220;Book of Mormon sites&#8221; in Guatemala.  That&#8217;s because I&#8217;m not convinced the Mayans were either Nephites or Lamanites.   Maybe some Mormons would consider me a heretic because I either reject or hesitate to accept some things that most of them believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Argus Skyhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argus Skyhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I loved Brigham City and States of Grace, and I thought God's Army was a very accurate portrayal of what much of my mission was like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I loved Brigham City and States of Grace, and I thought God&#8217;s Army was a very accurate portrayal of what much of my mission was like.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;express my admiration for Dutcher as a filmmaker.&lt;/i&gt;

I wonder if I am misunderstanding you here. Don't get me wrong, Dutcher seems to be a pretty good dude (at least as far as I can tell from his public statements). But do you really think his work was good? I've seen God's Army and Brigham City and that was enough for me. His movies, to me, lacked: production values, quality dialogue and accurate portrayals of the subject matter.
Like I said, I have absolutely nothing against the guy and wish him the best in his endeavors... maybe I am missing something about his talent as a filmmaker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>express my admiration for Dutcher as a filmmaker.</i></p>
<p>I wonder if I am misunderstanding you here. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Dutcher seems to be a pretty good dude (at least as far as I can tell from his public statements). But do you really think his work was good? I&#8217;ve seen God&#8217;s Army and Brigham City and that was enough for me. His movies, to me, lacked: production values, quality dialogue and accurate portrayals of the subject matter.<br />
Like I said, I have absolutely nothing against the guy and wish him the best in his endeavors&#8230; maybe I am missing something about his talent as a filmmaker?</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disturbed by the trend that Brother Dutcher so eloquently describes. I would say the leaders of the Church do tend to search those who have gone astray, the rank and file members do not. They just like to gossip. I was reading the 100-hour board at BYU and someone asked a question that basically was about feeling alone and suffering from depression. The response by the writers pretty much said "sucks to be you." Someone pointed out the fact that we're supposed to seek out the lost sheep, but that was met with "we aren't obligated to seek sheep who have run away". Something very wrong with  the rank-and-file members, and it saddens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disturbed by the trend that Brother Dutcher so eloquently describes. I would say the leaders of the Church do tend to search those who have gone astray, the rank and file members do not. They just like to gossip. I was reading the 100-hour board at BYU and someone asked a question that basically was about feeling alone and suffering from depression. The response by the writers pretty much said &#8220;sucks to be you.&#8221; Someone pointed out the fact that we&#8217;re supposed to seek out the lost sheep, but that was met with &#8220;we aren&#8217;t obligated to seek sheep who have run away&#8221;. Something very wrong with  the rank-and-file members, and it saddens me.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric D. Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric D. Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes. That's what the knave/blackguard line was referring to.... See this &lt;a href="http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/04/17/dutcher-learns-dont-make-kieth-merrill-angry/" rel="nofollow"&gt;previous blog entry&lt;/a&gt;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes. That&#8217;s what the knave/blackguard line was referring to&#8230;. See this <a href="http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/04/17/dutcher-learns-dont-make-kieth-merrill-angry/" rel="nofollow">previous blog entry</a>. <img src='http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Kieth Merrill kind of &lt;a href="http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/218036/" rel="nofollow"&gt;stepped forward&lt;/a&gt; and called Dutcher a knave and a blackguard... though he later &lt;a href="http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/218124/" rel="nofollow"&gt;apologized for it&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Kieth Merrill kind of <a href="http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/218036/" rel="nofollow">stepped forward</a> and called Dutcher a knave and a blackguard&#8230; though he later <a href="http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/218124/" rel="nofollow">apologized for it</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmy!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what?  All these people who are speculating as to his reasons for leaving the church are forgetting one very important fact--it's absolutely none of their business.  A man's religious beliefs (or lack thereof) are just about the most personal thing in his life, and he is under no obligation to share any of this with anyone.

Among other things, the events in Virginia this week taught us, again, that none of us can ever really be sure of what's going on in the hearts and minds of those around us.  Some people deal in silence with burdens that are crushing them, unbeknownst to even their closest friends.  It happens.  Nobody should expect Dutcher to come out and give a full accounting of the road he's been traveling down the last few months, or years, or hours, even, if he doesn't want to.

This comment isn't directed at anyone in particular, I just feel it's a helpful thing to keep in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what?  All these people who are speculating as to his reasons for leaving the church are forgetting one very important fact&#8211;it&#8217;s absolutely none of their business.  A man&#8217;s religious beliefs (or lack thereof) are just about the most personal thing in his life, and he is under no obligation to share any of this with anyone.</p>
<p>Among other things, the events in Virginia this week taught us, again, that none of us can ever really be sure of what&#8217;s going on in the hearts and minds of those around us.  Some people deal in silence with burdens that are crushing them, unbeknownst to even their closest friends.  It happens.  Nobody should expect Dutcher to come out and give a full accounting of the road he&#8217;s been traveling down the last few months, or years, or hours, even, if he doesn&#8217;t want to.</p>
<p>This comment isn&#8217;t directed at anyone in particular, I just feel it&#8217;s a helpful thing to keep in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Erelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s no room for failure in Ã¢â‚¬Å“good peopleÃ¢â‚¬? and no room for success in Ã¢â‚¬Å“bad people.Ã¢â‚¬?' 

An excellent observation, and one that needs to be repeated loudly and often in a society that is increasingly polarized.  Perhaps some baby-boomers can answer a question that betrays my "youth" : were the '60s this bad?   Thank heavens my 'chosen generation' wasn't deployed for another decade. 

Ditto about Randy Taylor's comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s no room for failure in Ã¢â‚¬Å“good peopleÃ¢â‚¬? and no room for success in Ã¢â‚¬Å“bad people.Ã¢â‚¬?&#8217; </p>
<p>An excellent observation, and one that needs to be repeated loudly and often in a society that is increasingly polarized.  Perhaps some baby-boomers can answer a question that betrays my &#8220;youth&#8221; : were the &#8217;60s this bad?   Thank heavens my &#8216;chosen generation&#8217; wasn&#8217;t deployed for another decade. </p>
<p>Ditto about Randy Taylor&#8217;s comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Momma Snider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Momma Snider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy Tayler hits the nail on the head once again.  He's one smart guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy Tayler hits the nail on the head once again.  He&#8217;s one smart guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy Tayler, who made comment #111 on Taryn Nelson-Seawright's piece, said the following,

"What I see on the message boards is generally sympathetic, not derogatory. And you have to imagine that most true Christians are going to be content to remain quiet on DutcherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s private decisions. But crazy people are louder, and hypocrites more obvious; theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll condemn and flame and rant Ã¢â‚¬â€ and we all shake our heads in embarrassment that theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re part of our 'fold'."

I think this is so true--the crazy people can be SO loud and obnoxious, that it starts to seem like they are the majority and, even worse, the voice of the LDS church. Same goes for political parties and many other groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy Tayler, who made comment #111 on Taryn Nelson-Seawright&#8217;s piece, said the following,</p>
<p>&#8220;What I see on the message boards is generally sympathetic, not derogatory. And you have to imagine that most true Christians are going to be content to remain quiet on DutcherÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s private decisions. But crazy people are louder, and hypocrites more obvious; theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll condemn and flame and rant Ã¢â‚¬â€ and we all shake our heads in embarrassment that theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re part of our &#8216;fold&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is so true&#8211;the crazy people can be SO loud and obnoxious, that it starts to seem like they are the majority and, even worse, the voice of the LDS church. Same goes for political parties and many other groups.</p>
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