Comments on: ‘10 Things Christians and Atheists Can (And Must) Agree On’ http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/ Eric D. Snider's blog. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:46:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Turkey http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85199 Turkey Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:35:25 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85199 Good effort on his part, certainly. But did he really think atheists wouldn't be able to explain their senses of morality? I don't see why the Jew one was offensive, either. Jews aren't typically blamed for ALL of those things; humor based upon hyperbole and all that. The whole point is to make fun of all religions/atheists equally so no one is left out. That picture alone doesn't make him an anti-Semite, if that's what your beef is. That picture was great, but the "Jesus is a lion" one made me laugh out loud for a good long time. Man, that was funny. Does that mean I'm going to hell? Good effort on his part, certainly. But did he really think atheists wouldn’t be able to explain their senses of morality?

I don’t see why the Jew one was offensive, either. Jews aren’t typically blamed for ALL of those things; humor based upon hyperbole and all that. The whole point is to make fun of all religions/atheists equally so no one is left out. That picture alone doesn’t make him an anti-Semite, if that’s what your beef is.

That picture was great, but the “Jesus is a lion” one made me laugh out loud for a good long time. Man, that was funny. Does that mean I’m going to hell?

]]> By: card http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85152 card Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:24:39 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85152 I wasn't so concerned about the facts. Obviously his representations of religious people vs non-religious people weren't going to represent everyone. I thought that was the whole point. Whatever our views are, we can agree on basic moral principles and be kind to each other. I wasn’t so concerned about the facts. Obviously his representations of religious people vs non-religious people weren’t going to represent everyone. I thought that was the whole point. Whatever our views are, we can agree on basic moral principles and be kind to each other.

]]> By: Amp http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85141 Amp Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:09:06 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85141 Slash: Yeah, I know, but I couldn't come up with a better one off the cuff. Intrinsic value? Slash: Yeah, I know, but I couldn’t come up with a better one off the cuff. Intrinsic value?

]]> By: Christina D http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85131 Christina D Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:43:15 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85131 This was a good article... Although some points weren't quite as well put together as they could have been, overall it was pretty good. :) This was a good article… Although some points weren’t quite as well put together as they could have been, overall it was pretty good. :)

]]> By: Slash http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85083 Slash Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:32:21 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85083 Hmmm... I don't think 'sacredness' is the right word to use. Hmmm…

I don’t think ’sacredness’ is the right word to use.

]]> By: Amp http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85054 Amp Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:52:43 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85054 pizzocalabro, I noticed that too. As one with a philosophy degree, I can confidently say that ethics have been based on rationality for a long, long time. I just figured, since I know so little about atheism, he most know something I didn't know. I think his point (as I understand it, anyway) still stands--that you don't have to be religious to be moral, and that even atheists believe in something higher than themselves (the sacredness of humanity), though they don't use divinity to get them there. pizzocalabro, I noticed that too. As one with a philosophy degree, I can confidently say that ethics have been based on rationality for a long, long time. I just figured, since I know so little about atheism, he most know something I didn’t know. I think his point (as I understand it, anyway) still stands–that you don’t have to be religious to be moral, and that even atheists believe in something higher than themselves (the sacredness of humanity), though they don’t use divinity to get them there.

]]> By: Speeding Slowly http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85053 Speeding Slowly Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:46:41 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85053 Hehe I never get tired of those pictures. Good article, though of course can't agree on EVERY detail, but hey that's life ;) And I think by comparing the holy wars to Stalin and Mao's purges he's not trying to prove that the purges were done in the 'name' of atheism (though people have been killed because of their religion, or lack *of* atheism in those same systems) but rather that you don't have to have a religious conviction to do something terrible like that- mankind's selfish will is plenty. I'm also amused by the evolution vs. non-evolution crowds. As a Christian evolutionist, I stand on my old geology notes and laugh :p Hehe I never get tired of those pictures. Good article, though of course can’t agree on EVERY detail, but hey that’s life ;)
And I think by comparing the holy wars to Stalin and Mao’s purges he’s not trying to prove that the purges were done in the ‘name’ of atheism (though people have been killed because of their religion, or lack *of* atheism in those same systems) but rather that you don’t have to have a religious conviction to do something terrible like that- mankind’s selfish will is plenty.
I’m also amused by the evolution vs. non-evolution crowds. As a Christian evolutionist, I stand on my old geology notes and laugh :p

]]> By: pizzocalabro http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85008 pizzocalabro Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:09:56 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85008 He doesn't seem very well versed in modern rationalist ethics, which are not based on the idea of an absolute moral arbiter and can be defended with logic. Also, some of his comparisons are forced--such as comparing the the Crusades, jihads, etc., which done in the name of God or Allah, to Stalin and Mao's purges . . . which were NOT done in the name of atheism, whatever that would mean. Anyway. Rapprochement is necessary, and if this helps someone learn a little tolerance, I suppose I can live with that. He doesn’t seem very well versed in modern rationalist ethics, which are not based on the idea of an absolute moral arbiter and can be defended with logic. Also, some of his comparisons are forced–such as comparing the the Crusades, jihads, etc., which done in the name of God or Allah, to Stalin and Mao’s purges . . . which were NOT done in the name of atheism, whatever that would mean.

Anyway. Rapprochement is necessary, and if this helps someone learn a little tolerance, I suppose I can live with that.

]]> By: Slash http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85004 Slash Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:58:52 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85004 He does make some unsupported assertions that I strongly disagree with. But I like what he's at least trying to do. He does make some unsupported assertions that I strongly disagree with. But I like what he’s at least trying to do.

]]> By: Huzzak http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85000 Huzzak Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:34:10 +0000 http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2007/12/19/10-things-christians-and-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on/#comment-85000 "That picture that attacked the Jews got me steaming mad, though. You just…don’t do that. garg. I better stop now." I can't imagine why. It was tongue in cheek just like all of the other pictures. “That picture that attacked the Jews got me steaming mad, though. You just…don’t do that. garg. I better stop now.”

I can’t imagine why. It was tongue in cheek just like all of the other pictures.

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