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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;No Country for Old Men&#8217;: Bell and Chigurh and the motel room</title>
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		<title>By: Holden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a film with multiple endings. However, I don&#039;t think Chigurh killed Bell. It just doesn&#039;t make any sense for me. I&#039;m not sure they had any reason to kill each other. Their mutuality are something odd and respectful... as they are part of each other.
I love everything about this movie, except Bell&#039;s thoughts about after life... that he will see his father in heaven. That&#039;s the part I don&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a film with multiple endings. However, I don&#8217;t think Chigurh killed Bell. It just doesn&#8217;t make any sense for me. I&#8217;m not sure they had any reason to kill each other. Their mutuality are something odd and respectful&#8230; as they are part of each other.<br />
I love everything about this movie, except Bell&#8217;s thoughts about after life&#8230; that he will see his father in heaven. That&#8217;s the part I don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirty Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look on the floor a coin a dime is there, it is heads up Chigurh let him live.
call it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look on the floor a coin a dime is there, it is heads up Chigurh let him live.<br />
call it</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, maybe a bit late, but anyway (having seen it just a few days ago). IMO there is nothing important unclear in the end - all was served straight and outright: the Mexicans got the money after shooting Moss who was just walking back to his room having spent a word with girl at the pool (and carrying the satchel). their escape came a few seconds after the shots (we heard them) - it means they were successful in finding and taking money. Chigurh must have been hiding behind the door of the second room when Bell came to the scene in the evening. Eric mentioned it could not be this way because of the hole in the door that could be seen on the left from his POV. but note - the yellow mark that we can see when watching Chigurh hiding is not the hole but the light on the wall (coming from the hole on his right). we can also see the vent cover down - this only shows Chigurh was looking for the money...he was not present when Moss was killed, so he could not be sure if Mexicans got the money. however, I also think, Chigurh&#039;s next step was hunting the Mexicans, maybe he got them and the satchel in the end, but that is not important for the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, maybe a bit late, but anyway (having seen it just a few days ago). IMO there is nothing important unclear in the end &#8211; all was served straight and outright: the Mexicans got the money after shooting Moss who was just walking back to his room having spent a word with girl at the pool (and carrying the satchel). their escape came a few seconds after the shots (we heard them) &#8211; it means they were successful in finding and taking money. Chigurh must have been hiding behind the door of the second room when Bell came to the scene in the evening. Eric mentioned it could not be this way because of the hole in the door that could be seen on the left from his POV. but note &#8211; the yellow mark that we can see when watching Chigurh hiding is not the hole but the light on the wall (coming from the hole on his right). we can also see the vent cover down &#8211; this only shows Chigurh was looking for the money&#8230;he was not present when Moss was killed, so he could not be sure if Mexicans got the money. however, I also think, Chigurh&#8217;s next step was hunting the Mexicans, maybe he got them and the satchel in the end, but that is not important for the story.</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Isn&#039;t it just as plausible that the Mexicans did get the money - assuming they shot Moss in the hotel room?

The bag was too big to fit in the vent - Didn&#039;t Moss have it on him when talking to the &quot;beer girl&quot; at the pool?

Anyway, they would have been in a rush to leave - but it seems equally plausible tjhat they nabbe dthe bag and ran as Chigurh finding it later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Isn&#8217;t it just as plausible that the Mexicans did get the money &#8211; assuming they shot Moss in the hotel room?</p>
<p>The bag was too big to fit in the vent &#8211; Didn&#8217;t Moss have it on him when talking to the &#8220;beer girl&#8221; at the pool?</p>
<p>Anyway, they would have been in a rush to leave &#8211; but it seems equally plausible tjhat they nabbe dthe bag and ran as Chigurh finding it later.</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one comment made is that Chigurh has the money because of the tell-tale dime and teh removed air vent.  But look at the air vent - it&#039;s round just inside the square opening - not big enough to hide the case with the $2M.  So - one theory would be that Chigurh looked, but the money was not there.  The only other idea I had was that the money was no longer in the large case - although the case was filled with the money - so one would assume it would have to be a bag about the same size - which would not fit into that small square vent opening that turns to a 4-6&quot; round pipe about 4-6&quot; into the vent.

So...I think it IS still very unclear who got the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one comment made is that Chigurh has the money because of the tell-tale dime and teh removed air vent.  But look at the air vent &#8211; it&#8217;s round just inside the square opening &#8211; not big enough to hide the case with the $2M.  So &#8211; one theory would be that Chigurh looked, but the money was not there.  The only other idea I had was that the money was no longer in the large case &#8211; although the case was filled with the money &#8211; so one would assume it would have to be a bag about the same size &#8211; which would not fit into that small square vent opening that turns to a 4-6&#8243; round pipe about 4-6&#8243; into the vent.</p>
<p>So&#8230;I think it IS still very unclear who got the money.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankFM</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankFM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt intuitively that the Sheriff took the money. He interrupted Chigurh.. and his only reason for going back, alone, was because he suspected the money might be there. The scenes that follow suggest the Sheriff is now almost morbidly obsessed with his own death: he sees it coming in the person of Chigurh, and feels guilt for having taken the money.. I don&#039;t feel that he was overmatched in any sense, by Chigurh, until he succumbed to the allure of the money. I think Tommy Lee Jones did a wonderful job of portraying a man who is preparing for death. The beautiful dream he recounts - with his father going before him, carrying fire.. was a perfect ending. In the end, darkness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt intuitively that the Sheriff took the money. He interrupted Chigurh.. and his only reason for going back, alone, was because he suspected the money might be there. The scenes that follow suggest the Sheriff is now almost morbidly obsessed with his own death: he sees it coming in the person of Chigurh, and feels guilt for having taken the money.. I don&#8217;t feel that he was overmatched in any sense, by Chigurh, until he succumbed to the allure of the money. I think Tommy Lee Jones did a wonderful job of portraying a man who is preparing for death. The beautiful dream he recounts &#8211; with his father going before him, carrying fire.. was a perfect ending. In the end, darkness.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After exploring this issue and thinking about it over and over again, I am almost 100% certain that Sheriff Bell is killed by Chigurh in the El Paso motel.  I think Bell knows Chigurh is probably there and that is why he goes back. 

During his conversation just prior to him going back to the El Paso motel, Bell and the local sheriff, Roscoe Giddins, finish their coffee shop conversation discussing Chigurh going back to the Eagle Hotel to kill Carson Wells the day after he killed the desk clerk. 

The last thing Roscoe says to Bell is: &quot;Strolls right back into a crime scene.  Who would do such a thing? How do you defend against it?&quot;

As Bell is sitting and thinking in his cruiser, I think he makes the decision to go back to the El Paso motel believing Chigurh will be there. 

This is Bell&#039;s heroic moment or his moment of him acting upon his principles. Think back to this foreshadowing narration:

&quot;I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job - not to be glorious. But I don&#039;t want to push my chips forward and go out and meet some-thing I don&#039;t understand.&quot; 

The entire movie Bell has been trying to &quot;understand&quot; Chigurh or understand what he is up against and at this point I think he thinks he is ready to confront him, to &quot;push his chips forward&quot; so to speak. 

If Bell didn&#039;t think Chigurh would be at the El Paso motel, why would Bell cut the engine of his cruiser in the parking lot of the motel and why would Bell close his door very quietly with both hands. 

In going back to the motel, Bell is unceremoniously killed. In fact, it is so unceremonious that it is not even shown (just like Carla Jean and Llewelyn). 

The more I think about that fact, the more I like the movie, because in every other film, the antagonist is killed in some final, drawn-out battle. And in a lot of instances, when the viewer thinks the antagonist is dead, he suddenly appears again, only to be &quot;killed again.&quot; 

The Coen brothers not only buck conventional movie-making, but completely throw it on its head by having Bell killed by Chigurh but not even letting the audience know Bell has been killed; making the audience figure it out on their own. The Coen brothers are basically saying that death sometimes makes no sense and it happens in the blink of an eye. 

For example, have you ever watched movie where the bad guy has the good guy in his grasp or his sights, but something miraculous happens allowing the good guy to escape and then kill the bad guy? And, do you ever think how stupid and insulting that is and why didn&#039;t the bad guy just shoot the good guy without saying anything and without some drawn-out dramatic dialogue? 

That is why I love NCFOM. It shows that death sometimes makes no sense and it happens just like that (snap of the fingers). 

Now, back to the question of whether or not Bell is killed by Chigurh in the motel.  Think of how an intangible object or thing like a &quot;bed&quot; or &quot;bedroom&quot; is portrayed throughout the movie along with the action of &quot;sitting.&quot; 

Bell is in the main room of the motel (dark), he then filps the light on in the bathroom (light), and when he goes back into the main room (dark), what does he do?  He sits &quot;heavily&quot; on the bed.  Him sitting heavily on the bed means that HE IS DEAD!!!

Where is Carla Jean when she dies?  She goes into her bedroom and says after a brief conversation with Chigurh, &quot;I need to sit down.&quot;  How does Chigurh respond, he nods at the bed and Carla Jean sits down (though not on the bed).

Where does Carson Wells die.  Chigurh makes Wells go back to his hotel room.  Both are sitting in chairs in his bedroom when Chigurh shoots Wells.  Chigurh thens puts his feet on the bed to answer the phone.

And then there is the story Bell tells his deputy about the couple in California who were &quot;renting rooms&quot; to elderly couples and then killing them.  Again, death and bedrooms. 

One of the three Mexicans is killed while lying in bed and all three are killed in a motel room. 

Earlier in the movie, Bell stops a flatbed truck and has a conversation about the tie-downs coming loose.  What is in the &quot;bed&quot; of the pick-up?  Dead bodies.  When Bell asks about the man why he didn&#039;t use the van instead, the movie is making a point about beds and being dead.  Otherwise, what is the point of that scene?

Then, think of probably the the most memorable scene of the movie where Chigurh is having a conversation with the gas station proprietor.  Out of nowhere, Chigurh asks the proprietor &quot;What time do you go to bed?&quot;  Caught off guard, the proprietor answers &quot;9:30&quot; and Chigurh says &quot;I could come back then&quot; meaning that that is when the proprietor is going to die.  Instead Chigurh utilitizes the coin-flip. 

Think also of the scene where Bell goes to see his uncle Ellis. Their conversation at the beginning of that scene is as follows:

Bell:
How&#039;d you know I was here.

Ellis:
Who else&#039;d be in your truck. 

Bell:
You heard it?

Ellis:
How&#039;s that?

Bell:
You heard my - you havin fun with me?

Ellis:
What give you that idea. I seen one of the cats heard it. 

Bell:
But - how&#039;d you know it was mine?

Ellis:
I deduced it.  Once you walked in.

This is a strange conversation. I too think Ellis is dead and he just knows Bell is coming to visit without resorting to any sensory perception that Bell is on his way. 

Then this:

Ellis:
Got a letter from your wife.  She writes pretty regular, tells me the family news. 

Bell:
Didn&#039;t know there was any.

Ellis:
She just told me you was quittin.  Sit down. 

Boom!!! That last part, the family news is that Bell has quit (retired), in other owords Bell has died, and then Ellis immediately tells him to &quot;sit down.&quot;  Being retired is &quot;being dead&quot; in the movie.  Llewelyn is a &quot;retired&quot; welder, Carla Jean is &quot;retied&quot; from Wal-Mart, and Carson Wells is a &quot;retired&quot; Army colonel.  The entire movie is leading up to Bell&#039;s retirement.  

The last conversation between Bell and his wife goes like this:

Bell:
Maybe I&#039;ll go ridin. 

Loretta:
Okay.

Bell:
What do you think.

Loretta:
I can&#039;t plan your day. 

Bell:
I mean, would you care to join me. 

Loretta:
Lord no. I&#039;m not retired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After exploring this issue and thinking about it over and over again, I am almost 100% certain that Sheriff Bell is killed by Chigurh in the El Paso motel.  I think Bell knows Chigurh is probably there and that is why he goes back. </p>
<p>During his conversation just prior to him going back to the El Paso motel, Bell and the local sheriff, Roscoe Giddins, finish their coffee shop conversation discussing Chigurh going back to the Eagle Hotel to kill Carson Wells the day after he killed the desk clerk. </p>
<p>The last thing Roscoe says to Bell is: &#8220;Strolls right back into a crime scene.  Who would do such a thing? How do you defend against it?&#8221;</p>
<p>As Bell is sitting and thinking in his cruiser, I think he makes the decision to go back to the El Paso motel believing Chigurh will be there. </p>
<p>This is Bell&#8217;s heroic moment or his moment of him acting upon his principles. Think back to this foreshadowing narration:</p>
<p>&#8220;I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job &#8211; not to be glorious. But I don&#8217;t want to push my chips forward and go out and meet some-thing I don&#8217;t understand.&#8221; </p>
<p>The entire movie Bell has been trying to &#8220;understand&#8221; Chigurh or understand what he is up against and at this point I think he thinks he is ready to confront him, to &#8220;push his chips forward&#8221; so to speak. </p>
<p>If Bell didn&#8217;t think Chigurh would be at the El Paso motel, why would Bell cut the engine of his cruiser in the parking lot of the motel and why would Bell close his door very quietly with both hands. </p>
<p>In going back to the motel, Bell is unceremoniously killed. In fact, it is so unceremonious that it is not even shown (just like Carla Jean and Llewelyn). </p>
<p>The more I think about that fact, the more I like the movie, because in every other film, the antagonist is killed in some final, drawn-out battle. And in a lot of instances, when the viewer thinks the antagonist is dead, he suddenly appears again, only to be &#8220;killed again.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Coen brothers not only buck conventional movie-making, but completely throw it on its head by having Bell killed by Chigurh but not even letting the audience know Bell has been killed; making the audience figure it out on their own. The Coen brothers are basically saying that death sometimes makes no sense and it happens in the blink of an eye. </p>
<p>For example, have you ever watched movie where the bad guy has the good guy in his grasp or his sights, but something miraculous happens allowing the good guy to escape and then kill the bad guy? And, do you ever think how stupid and insulting that is and why didn&#8217;t the bad guy just shoot the good guy without saying anything and without some drawn-out dramatic dialogue? </p>
<p>That is why I love NCFOM. It shows that death sometimes makes no sense and it happens just like that (snap of the fingers). </p>
<p>Now, back to the question of whether or not Bell is killed by Chigurh in the motel.  Think of how an intangible object or thing like a &#8220;bed&#8221; or &#8220;bedroom&#8221; is portrayed throughout the movie along with the action of &#8220;sitting.&#8221; </p>
<p>Bell is in the main room of the motel (dark), he then filps the light on in the bathroom (light), and when he goes back into the main room (dark), what does he do?  He sits &#8220;heavily&#8221; on the bed.  Him sitting heavily on the bed means that HE IS DEAD!!!</p>
<p>Where is Carla Jean when she dies?  She goes into her bedroom and says after a brief conversation with Chigurh, &#8220;I need to sit down.&#8221;  How does Chigurh respond, he nods at the bed and Carla Jean sits down (though not on the bed).</p>
<p>Where does Carson Wells die.  Chigurh makes Wells go back to his hotel room.  Both are sitting in chairs in his bedroom when Chigurh shoots Wells.  Chigurh thens puts his feet on the bed to answer the phone.</p>
<p>And then there is the story Bell tells his deputy about the couple in California who were &#8220;renting rooms&#8221; to elderly couples and then killing them.  Again, death and bedrooms. </p>
<p>One of the three Mexicans is killed while lying in bed and all three are killed in a motel room. </p>
<p>Earlier in the movie, Bell stops a flatbed truck and has a conversation about the tie-downs coming loose.  What is in the &#8220;bed&#8221; of the pick-up?  Dead bodies.  When Bell asks about the man why he didn&#8217;t use the van instead, the movie is making a point about beds and being dead.  Otherwise, what is the point of that scene?</p>
<p>Then, think of probably the the most memorable scene of the movie where Chigurh is having a conversation with the gas station proprietor.  Out of nowhere, Chigurh asks the proprietor &#8220;What time do you go to bed?&#8221;  Caught off guard, the proprietor answers &#8220;9:30&#8243; and Chigurh says &#8220;I could come back then&#8221; meaning that that is when the proprietor is going to die.  Instead Chigurh utilitizes the coin-flip. </p>
<p>Think also of the scene where Bell goes to see his uncle Ellis. Their conversation at the beginning of that scene is as follows:</p>
<p>Bell:<br />
How&#8217;d you know I was here.</p>
<p>Ellis:<br />
Who else&#8217;d be in your truck. </p>
<p>Bell:<br />
You heard it?</p>
<p>Ellis:<br />
How&#8217;s that?</p>
<p>Bell:<br />
You heard my &#8211; you havin fun with me?</p>
<p>Ellis:<br />
What give you that idea. I seen one of the cats heard it. </p>
<p>Bell:<br />
But &#8211; how&#8217;d you know it was mine?</p>
<p>Ellis:<br />
I deduced it.  Once you walked in.</p>
<p>This is a strange conversation. I too think Ellis is dead and he just knows Bell is coming to visit without resorting to any sensory perception that Bell is on his way. </p>
<p>Then this:</p>
<p>Ellis:<br />
Got a letter from your wife.  She writes pretty regular, tells me the family news. </p>
<p>Bell:<br />
Didn&#8217;t know there was any.</p>
<p>Ellis:<br />
She just told me you was quittin.  Sit down. </p>
<p>Boom!!! That last part, the family news is that Bell has quit (retired), in other owords Bell has died, and then Ellis immediately tells him to &#8220;sit down.&#8221;  Being retired is &#8220;being dead&#8221; in the movie.  Llewelyn is a &#8220;retired&#8221; welder, Carla Jean is &#8220;retied&#8221; from Wal-Mart, and Carson Wells is a &#8220;retired&#8221; Army colonel.  The entire movie is leading up to Bell&#8217;s retirement.  </p>
<p>The last conversation between Bell and his wife goes like this:</p>
<p>Bell:<br />
Maybe I&#8217;ll go ridin. </p>
<p>Loretta:<br />
Okay.</p>
<p>Bell:<br />
What do you think.</p>
<p>Loretta:<br />
I can&#8217;t plan your day. </p>
<p>Bell:<br />
I mean, would you care to join me. </p>
<p>Loretta:<br />
Lord no. I&#8217;m not retired.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing to dismiss that he was hiding in the room is this massively obvious evidence. I thought of how easy and obvious it would be to dismiss he was in the room this way but didn&#039;t have the dvd to watch it again to prove which side he was on. The door on 114 is the mirror image of 112. If you were to enter room 114, as Bell does, the door would swing open to your right. Opening room 112, the door would swing open to your left. So he couldn&#039;t have been behind the door of the same room as the door opens the other way! One hypothesis down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to dismiss that he was hiding in the room is this massively obvious evidence. I thought of how easy and obvious it would be to dismiss he was in the room this way but didn&#8217;t have the dvd to watch it again to prove which side he was on. The door on 114 is the mirror image of 112. If you were to enter room 114, as Bell does, the door would swing open to your right. Opening room 112, the door would swing open to your left. So he couldn&#8217;t have been behind the door of the same room as the door opens the other way! One hypothesis down.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know the correct answer to the motel room scene but I know what is wrong! Here is a list. 
Of course sugar exists! Otherwise the movie is an entire metaphor dream like thing where everyone killed in it didn&#039;t really exist and then just nothing exists and the whole plot is pointless, that&#039;s just stupid and no one would make a movie like that, movies always have to have a grounding in real life if they include symbolism.

I do not believe Sugar is in the motel room, there&#039;s just no where to hide! And Sugar would NEVER hide anyway, he killed the cop at the start without hesitation or without offering him a coin toss. There&#039;s no way he would sit down with him and offer him the coin toss, you&#039;re starting to make things up in your head now. If it happened it would have been included, we aren&#039;t that psychic. He couldn&#039;t have ran out when he was in the bathroom as you would have heard him and where would he have been hiding to run out quickly? Have you ever stayed in a bare bone motel room like that?

There&#039;s also no way the cop got the money or died. He never got the money as it&#039;s not his character to steal, he is the honest old school type it&#039;s clearly shown, and also he is the narrator and narrators never intervene with actions within a movie and effect anything. He also didn&#039;t die as the movie is keen to show each distinct character or force. Good, Bad, Neutral. Each would have a different ending, not 2 dead. It would be fair to say good dies (mainly because of his greedy choices (money taking at start and money over wife at end, or because of his compassion- if he had turned evil and not gone back to give water he would have lived), bad lives (but is shaken in his beliefs when hit by car) and neutral gives up and realizes the eternal fight between good and evil is not for mortals to interfere with.

Don&#039;t know who got the money, pretty sure it&#039;s Sugar or there would be no point to the $100 note (remember when making a film, everything you put in front of the camera is for a reason, not just to take up minutes). It&#039;s not the point anyway.

So that leaves the hotel room was either all in his head, facing his fear, or he was next door. Both have actual meaning to he story unlike the other ideas. The 1st means he realized he was too scared to face modern crime and hung up his guns and realized he was the title of the film, the 2nd is the fate door number 1 or number 2. But since the TITLE of the movie is no country for old men, I guess it was meant to be Number 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know the correct answer to the motel room scene but I know what is wrong! Here is a list.<br />
Of course sugar exists! Otherwise the movie is an entire metaphor dream like thing where everyone killed in it didn&#8217;t really exist and then just nothing exists and the whole plot is pointless, that&#8217;s just stupid and no one would make a movie like that, movies always have to have a grounding in real life if they include symbolism.</p>
<p>I do not believe Sugar is in the motel room, there&#8217;s just no where to hide! And Sugar would NEVER hide anyway, he killed the cop at the start without hesitation or without offering him a coin toss. There&#8217;s no way he would sit down with him and offer him the coin toss, you&#8217;re starting to make things up in your head now. If it happened it would have been included, we aren&#8217;t that psychic. He couldn&#8217;t have ran out when he was in the bathroom as you would have heard him and where would he have been hiding to run out quickly? Have you ever stayed in a bare bone motel room like that?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also no way the cop got the money or died. He never got the money as it&#8217;s not his character to steal, he is the honest old school type it&#8217;s clearly shown, and also he is the narrator and narrators never intervene with actions within a movie and effect anything. He also didn&#8217;t die as the movie is keen to show each distinct character or force. Good, Bad, Neutral. Each would have a different ending, not 2 dead. It would be fair to say good dies (mainly because of his greedy choices (money taking at start and money over wife at end, or because of his compassion- if he had turned evil and not gone back to give water he would have lived), bad lives (but is shaken in his beliefs when hit by car) and neutral gives up and realizes the eternal fight between good and evil is not for mortals to interfere with.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know who got the money, pretty sure it&#8217;s Sugar or there would be no point to the $100 note (remember when making a film, everything you put in front of the camera is for a reason, not just to take up minutes). It&#8217;s not the point anyway.</p>
<p>So that leaves the hotel room was either all in his head, facing his fear, or he was next door. Both have actual meaning to he story unlike the other ideas. The 1st means he realized he was too scared to face modern crime and hung up his guns and realized he was the title of the film, the 2nd is the fate door number 1 or number 2. But since the TITLE of the movie is no country for old men, I guess it was meant to be Number 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric- Having read the book, I&#039;m with you on the explanations. The only inconsistency I have in the explantion above is this: The bullet casings where Moss was standing while talking to the girl don&#039;t appear to come from what he had in his rifle/shotgun case, but rather from an automatic weapon consistent with what the injured Mexican had laying next to him. It looks like a shotgun shell casing is next to Moss&#039;s dead body, so I&#039;m thinking Moss had a shotgun in his rifle bag. So, my guess is Moss may have been standing talking to the girl at pool, like you say, but he takes off toward his room when the truck pulls in the parking lot. He didn&#039;t have time to take his weapon out of the bag while standing there. The truck then stops where he was standing and one of the Mexicans shoots the girl from roughly the spot where Moss was standing. It is on the way in. A shootout ensues with Moss at the front area of his room. He gets one, gets hit, and they retreat, again like you said. That is my story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric- Having read the book, I&#8217;m with you on the explanations. The only inconsistency I have in the explantion above is this: The bullet casings where Moss was standing while talking to the girl don&#8217;t appear to come from what he had in his rifle/shotgun case, but rather from an automatic weapon consistent with what the injured Mexican had laying next to him. It looks like a shotgun shell casing is next to Moss&#8217;s dead body, so I&#8217;m thinking Moss had a shotgun in his rifle bag. So, my guess is Moss may have been standing talking to the girl at pool, like you say, but he takes off toward his room when the truck pulls in the parking lot. He didn&#8217;t have time to take his weapon out of the bag while standing there. The truck then stops where he was standing and one of the Mexicans shoots the girl from roughly the spot where Moss was standing. It is on the way in. A shootout ensues with Moss at the front area of his room. He gets one, gets hit, and they retreat, again like you said. That is my story.</p>
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