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	<title>Comments on: Shaming Live Universe into paying what they owe you actually works!</title>
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		<title>By: Defender</title>
		<link>http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2008/11/18/publicly-shaming-live-universe-into-paying-what-they-owe-you-actually-works/comment-page-1/#comment-226280</link>
		<dc:creator>Defender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 16:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I used to work for these guys. Really dishonest company that&#039;s for sure.   They tried to get me to sign a non compete agreement that basically stated I couldn&#039;t work in entertainment if I decided to quit. Hello! That&#039;s illegal!  The whole place was a madhouse and nothing every really got done. So much in fact that the VP of production asked us to lie to corporate about what we were actually doing all day long!  Hows that for dishonesty?  We had access to all of this equipment and no one would take any initiative to actually go out and shoot stuff. Everything was so embroiled in red tape nothing got done, so basically we all got paid to sit on our asses. Oh and then their was the studio manager who spent a full day writing up a document regarding smoking cigarettes at work. And of course how could I forget how one long time employee said to me&quot; Here at Livevideo, we do things in a round about way&quot;  Yep you sure do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I used to work for these guys. Really dishonest company that&#8217;s for sure.   They tried to get me to sign a non compete agreement that basically stated I couldn&#8217;t work in entertainment if I decided to quit. Hello! That&#8217;s illegal!  The whole place was a madhouse and nothing every really got done. So much in fact that the VP of production asked us to lie to corporate about what we were actually doing all day long!  Hows that for dishonesty?  We had access to all of this equipment and no one would take any initiative to actually go out and shoot stuff. Everything was so embroiled in red tape nothing got done, so basically we all got paid to sit on our asses. Oh and then their was the studio manager who spent a full day writing up a document regarding smoking cigarettes at work. And of course how could I forget how one long time employee said to me&#8221; Here at Livevideo, we do things in a round about way&#8221;  Yep you sure do.</p>
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		<title>By: nfirm</title>
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		<dc:creator>nfirm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone could provide any contact (working email or physical mailing address) would be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone could provide any contact (working email or physical mailing address) would be great.</p>
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		<title>By: stevejust</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevejust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to help a client collect a default judgment against LiveUniverse as we speak.  I&#039;ve contacted the attorneys in Illinois who represent them there, but I can&#039;t find them since they closed down the the office at 9255 Sunset Blvd.  Any help at this point would be appreciated.  Either their new office space, or the address for Brad Greenspan... even their attorneys&#039; contact info would be helpful at this point.
Stephen.t.Blackburn at gmail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to help a client collect a default judgment against LiveUniverse as we speak.  I&#8217;ve contacted the attorneys in Illinois who represent them there, but I can&#8217;t find them since they closed down the the office at 9255 Sunset Blvd.  Any help at this point would be appreciated.  Either their new office space, or the address for Brad Greenspan&#8230; even their attorneys&#8217; contact info would be helpful at this point.<br />
Stephen.t.Blackburn at gmail</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric
Do you have any phone numbers for Live Universe that actually work?  We have a court order and still cannot get them to respond to our registered mail demanding payment.  If they are alive, they are showing no signs of breathing....
DK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric<br />
Do you have any phone numbers for Live Universe that actually work?  We have a court order and still cannot get them to respond to our registered mail demanding payment.  If they are alive, they are showing no signs of breathing&#8230;.<br />
DK</p>
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		<title>By: Bzero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, excellent job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, excellent job.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://www.ericdsnider.com/blog/2008/11/18/publicly-shaming-live-universe-into-paying-what-they-owe-you-actually-works/comment-page-1/#comment-170638</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats! I&#039;m really hoping they pay up for the Revver people. The amount is up there and it would be nice to get it finally. Glad you stood your ground and were smart enough to tell them to piss off. You did the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats! I&#8217;m really hoping they pay up for the Revver people. The amount is up there and it would be nice to get it finally. Glad you stood your ground and were smart enough to tell them to piss off. You did the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Daedalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing you got your cash, but this story brings out painfully clear LU is deliberately not paying their users. Employees probably get paid, because LU has to, otherwise they&#039;ll all leave for another job. Users can&#039;t do that so easily. Take Revver for example, people put up their videos already, got paid in the past, and don&#039;t want to go and re-upload their stuff elsewhere, where they surely won&#039;t get paid, lose part of their audience, lose their comments, break all embedded players scattered around the net. At least it&#039;s easier to change Peerflix ads.
So apparently, this is LU&#039;s strategy. And I hope I&#039;m wrong, let LU prove that by simply start paying its users right about... *now*. But I think what they do is this; buy up these sites that pay users for showing ads. That costs a few million, maybe. They keep all user payments on hold. It will take a while before people start complaining. Send out some reports there were payment problems. Keep the people quiet for another month or two or three. Meanwhile keep earning from the ads. People will complain more and more, but those complaints are of course directly forwarded to /dev/null. Eventually, users will get so mad, they leave the site, the site gets shut down. By that time, LU has earned back the money they paid for the site in the first place, and some more probably. LU goes on to leech off of another site with unsuspecting users and so the whole Cycle Of Death continues.
They don&#039;t care about the users. Most of them will think &quot;oh, duck them&quot; and move on. Occasionally, someone like Eric comes along. They pay up and that&#039;s that, business as usual continues. LU knows full well they can&#039;t get away with it if anybody&#039;d sue them, shows the example above, quickly giving in and paying one flea and keep on scamming the others.
Though I hope I&#039;m wrong, really. So LU, if you&#039;re reading this, you don&#039;t owe me personally any money right now, but a lot of people out there are waiting for months now. If I&#039;m wrong and you&#039;re not deliberately not paying these people, then show it. Start paying now. Other companies out there paid me within a week, some even pay within hours. There&#039;s no reason at all you need months for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing you got your cash, but this story brings out painfully clear LU is deliberately not paying their users. Employees probably get paid, because LU has to, otherwise they&#8217;ll all leave for another job. Users can&#8217;t do that so easily. Take Revver for example, people put up their videos already, got paid in the past, and don&#8217;t want to go and re-upload their stuff elsewhere, where they surely won&#8217;t get paid, lose part of their audience, lose their comments, break all embedded players scattered around the net. At least it&#8217;s easier to change Peerflix ads.<br />
So apparently, this is LU&#8217;s strategy. And I hope I&#8217;m wrong, let LU prove that by simply start paying its users right about&#8230; *now*. But I think what they do is this; buy up these sites that pay users for showing ads. That costs a few million, maybe. They keep all user payments on hold. It will take a while before people start complaining. Send out some reports there were payment problems. Keep the people quiet for another month or two or three. Meanwhile keep earning from the ads. People will complain more and more, but those complaints are of course directly forwarded to /dev/null. Eventually, users will get so mad, they leave the site, the site gets shut down. By that time, LU has earned back the money they paid for the site in the first place, and some more probably. LU goes on to leech off of another site with unsuspecting users and so the whole Cycle Of Death continues.<br />
They don&#8217;t care about the users. Most of them will think &#8220;oh, duck them&#8221; and move on. Occasionally, someone like Eric comes along. They pay up and that&#8217;s that, business as usual continues. LU knows full well they can&#8217;t get away with it if anybody&#8217;d sue them, shows the example above, quickly giving in and paying one flea and keep on scamming the others.<br />
Though I hope I&#8217;m wrong, really. So LU, if you&#8217;re reading this, you don&#8217;t owe me personally any money right now, but a lot of people out there are waiting for months now. If I&#8217;m wrong and you&#8217;re not deliberately not paying these people, then show it. Start paying now. Other companies out there paid me within a week, some even pay within hours. There&#8217;s no reason at all you need months for it.</p>
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		<title>By: paul perkims</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul perkims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you have a phone number or a email so i can email them as well they own me about 750 thanks for you time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you have a phone number or a email so i can email them as well they own me about 750 thanks for you time.</p>
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		<title>By: Scooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome.  If I had a penny for every email I got from LiveNation I could have wired you the $600 years ago. Perhaps they were too busy on their crusade to spam the entire known universe to get to your account payable issue.  Good for you for taking them to the mat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.  If I had a penny for every email I got from LiveNation I could have wired you the $600 years ago. Perhaps they were too busy on their crusade to spam the entire known universe to get to your account payable issue.  Good for you for taking them to the mat!</p>
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		<title>By: Clumpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for not getting sheepish and turning back on some of your well-deserved vivisection of LiveUniverse. Too many people do that and too many companies are used to buying them off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for not getting sheepish and turning back on some of your well-deserved vivisection of LiveUniverse. Too many people do that and too many companies are used to buying them off.</p>
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