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Larry Miller follow-up and clarification

Looks like I stepped in it just a little bit in my last blog entry. On the subject of gays vs. straights, I said this:

Religious people, meanwhile, often want the gay community to understand that they (they religious people) have every right to consider gay conduct sinful. And they do have that right. But when those beliefs are being used to champion secular laws restricting gays’ rights, then a line has been crossed. Preach what you want in your churches, but leave the laws out of it. [Emphasis added.]

This led some people, knowing my LDS background, to wonder: Am I saying I think the LDS Church is wrong when it urges its members to vote against legislation that would legalize gay marriage?

My thoughts can be summed up thus: Doh!

The line originally read, “But when those beliefs are being used to champion secular laws restricting gays’ rights, then maybe a line has been crossed.” Note the word “maybe.” I was covering both sides of the argument in that post, and this paragraph was addressing the gay community’s point of view. I didn’t necessarily mean for it to be a statement of my own feelings, but simply a summary of one argument: that maybe, in some people’s view, a line has been crossed.

Late in the writing process, I took out the “maybe.” It’s an old journalism-school habit, where weasel words like “maybe” and “I think” and “in my opinion” should be used sparingly, and only when necessary. I removed this “maybe” carelessly, though, without stopping to consider how it changed the tone of the sentence.

My own opinions on this topic are evolving, not to mention irrelevant to what this Web site is all about. It’s a complicated, thorny issue. Even if one opposes gay marriage, should one campaign for legislation against it? Even if one supports the church leadership generally, must one agree with every single point? If one believes gay marriage should be banned, does that mean one is anti-homosexual or bigoted? Where is the line, discussed in that Larry Miller blog entry, between “understanding” and “tolerance”?

Finally: Gay marriage is a controversial subject, with good arguments on both sides. Unfortunately, the same good arguments (as well as the stupid ones) keep getting repeated back and forth, to where you could make a template of what Every Gay-Marriage Discussion sounds like. It’s always rancorous and headache-inducing, and I don’t like it. And thus, since this is my blog and I can do whatever I want, I’m not going to allow this or any other thread to turn into a debate on the pros and cons of gay marriage. Any comments submitted that do address the pros or cons of the issue will be deleted. Trust me, this is a necessary preemptive measure. If I let it, these threads would become overloaded with posts debating gay marriage, and it would make me irritable.

In lieu of that, please read these previous message board discussions. Whatever your feeling is, I can almost guarantee someone expressed it in one of these threads, and hence there is no need to reiterate it here. If you’re reading along, and you think of a great rebuttal, keep reading: I promise, somebody else made the same rebuttal.

About the LDS Church’s official statement on gay marriage (SPOILER ALERT: They were against it)
About the LDS Church’s subsequent, more specific statement, about gay marriage legislation
About a BYU professor being fired for speaking out against the LDS Church’s position
About the Larry Miller/”Brokeback” thing

8 Responses to “Larry Miller follow-up and clarification”

  1. Lowdogg Says:

    Whatever happened to free speech?

    Just kidding.

  2. Eric Herman Says:

    That’s why I can’t post anything to the internet anymore without my wife proofreading it first. :o) She would have caught something like that.

    (Can I post this, honey?? Cool.)

  3. O'Mallen Says:

    Hey, Eric pays for the site, so even he doesn’t get free speach here!

  4. Karen Stout Says:

    Oh, cool! O’Mallen just gave me an idea for the “Beeph Tacos, Please” thread over on the Message Board that is associated with the name Snider, but not a part of Eric’s professional life except in an ancillary manner. Thanks, O’Mallen.

  5. Momma Snider Says:

    And on the original point of the story, I also applaud Larry Miller for thinking about it and apologizing. It takes a very strong person to apologize (sincerely) in a situation like that. Usually when we say or do something controversial that brings down wrath, we’re more likely to get stubborn.

    On a different note, one thing I don’t understand is labeling as “homophobes” anyone who says homosexuality is wrong. My best friend is a lesbian, and I’m certainly not afraid of her or her lifestyle. I think it’s wrong, just as I thought it was wrong when she cheated on her several husbands before she became a lesbian, but I love her and will never stop hoping she will find true happiness. And yes, I do have very clear-cut ideas on where that happiness lies. But to call it a phobia because I disagree with it isn’t correct.

  6. Ken Says:

    anyway, where can I find a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head?

  7. Cafe_Au_Lait Says:

    Good for you, Eric, on heading off a potential “war” before it could really get started. As for me, I don’t really care what anyone is, or believes, or wants to do, provided they’re basically good people. Life is much more pleasant that way.

  8. Binky Says:

    Ken, I would be willing to trade 1 (one) picture of a bunny with a pancake on it’s head for a statuette of ANY dead fascist leader made entirely of TVP.

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